March 10th, 2008

Today's design is based on the Open Road SVG image that was just uploaded. This SVG image is ideal for a background, because it lends itself to morphing. It's also a horizontal image, which works better for a background image.

The image is adding into the page in such a way that it expands to fill the page, regardless of how small or large the browser window is. It is resolution independent. I use two SVG attributes to manage how the images show in my sites, both set on the SVG element, itself.

The first SVG attribute I set is viewBox. The viewBox attribute is a way of capturing a specific section of the SVG image, and using this captured section to fill a given viewport. For instance, if the image naturally sizes to 400 pixels wide, 200 pixels tall, setting a viewBox to 0 0 400 200 is equivalent to how the image would fill the viewport by default without a viewBox. If you use different settings, say 50 20 350 150, then you're modifying the viewport for the image, setting the beginning x at 50, beginning y at 20, the width at 350 and the height at 150. Since, by default, x increases from left to right, y increases from top to bottom, setting the beginning x and y clips the upper and leftmost edges of the image. If the width and height is less than what the image's true width and height is, this clips the bottom and rightmost section of the image. You can use any combination, including negative for min-x and min-y, but you can't use negative values for the width and height. If you use a negative value for the min-x and min-y, it's about the same as using a margin–it pushes the image over and down.

The viewBox I put on the Open Highway SVG is 50 50 600 400. I decided I didn't like the sun showing, so I set a smaller width, clipping the image on the right. I didn't like as much blue sky, and I liked having the road focused a little off-centered, to the right, so I set the min-y and min-x accordingly.

Now, if I used the SVG, as is, with my expanded background, what would happen is the browser engine would attempt to fill my space, but still maintain the image's original aspect ratio. The image would expand to fill the width at a 100%, but to preserve the aspect ratio, the height wouldn't be enough to fill the space. The image expands in both dimensions until one fills the space, and then stops expanding along the other dimension.

This can work sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't work. In this case, it doesn't work.

I use the second SVG attribute, preserveAspectRatio, set to a value of "none" to tell the browser engine not to preserve the aspect ratio. Then the image expands 100% along the width and height–stretching the image, true, but filling in the space. If you choose the right background, such as Open Road, which works rather well, it doesn't matter the perspective, it works. There are also other settings for peserveAspectRatio, but I'll play around with those another day, with another design.

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The images were created using Firefox 3b3. Firefox 2.x has limited support for SVG at this time.

My two other images are not the same as the background, as I'm not demonstrating the resolution independent nature of SVG today. I used a coffee cup for the top image, and a little car for the bottom, both of which I think complement the "open road" scheme. Both have the viewBox set, otherwise the SVG images would not resize to fit the container. Instead, I'd be stuck with scrollbars (more on scrollbars later). The coffee cup viewBox creates a viewport big enough for the entire image. The car's height is clipped, so that the wheels line up directly on the bottom of the page.

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I used the object element rather than inputing the SVG inline for today's theme, as I wanted to record another couple of bugs with WebKit and Opera.

Webkit stretches the image, but it doesn't draw the content over the SVG until I scroll down and back again. In addition, WebKit also adds a white background for the SVG, which is something we can't seem to control. This can really ruin a nice effect, such as the top coffee mug, and the bottom car.

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Opera doesn't stretch it at all, and also persists in putting scrollbars on the objects. No matter what I do to try and control the object overflow, the scrollbars get added.

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I've turned in bug reports for WebKit about the drawing problem and the white background. I've also noted problems with pages for Opera, but I'm going to make sure formal bugs are entered for the gradient problem with yesterday's design, and the object scrollbars and inaccurate resizing with yesterday's and today's design.

The work on the themes does demonstrate another important issue. Something like ACID2 and ACID3 are handy ways of seeing if key web technologies are supported, but they're not comprehensive. Firefox 3b3 scores less than Opera 9.5b and the WebKit nightly on ACID3, but it has better overall support for SVG; especially as integrated into a web page. If the browser makers focus too much on the Acid tests, they may miss the overall picture, which is ensuring that SVG works well in a web page. I have confidence, though, that my reported bugs will generate activity.

I won't keep this design for long–or at least, I won't use the object elements–because IE does not deal well with SVG loaded into an object elements that are supposed to be in the background, no matter what version of IE I use. The content is pushed down with IE7, and gone altogether with IE8. I'm getting this behavior even when using the Adobe SVG plug-in.

In the meantime, since Microsoft isn't welcoming bug reports from the general public related to IE8, my only recourse is to remove the Adobe plug-in. Once the Adobe SVG plug-in was de-installed, then the page opened just fine in IE. Well, it's in black and white, but legible.

updated

Bud didn't like the clouds.

*poof*

Clouds gone.

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Comments
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Bud Gibson - 3:26 pm March 10, 2008

Interesting concept and look. I'm not sure I'm in love with the distortion introduced by stretching both ways without regard to the original aspect ration. It works ok with the straight-lined objects but less so with curved items like the clouds.

Here's a thought. What about expanding on just one dimension until the whole background is filled. That would eliminate distortion, perhaps as the expense of super magnification.

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dave - 4:46 am March 11, 2008

I was under the impression that Acid3, while commonly regarded as focussed on a lot of Javascript stuff had reached out to the SVG community for appropriate tests. I'd also heard (via Surfin' Safari I believe) that the raw result number can be misleading since each 'point' represents a battery of tests. Fail all the sub-tests and you don't get the point, fail just one sub-test, you still don't get the point.

So it may be somewhat misleading (though I'd hope there is a valid reason for the goruping e.g. without all the pieces working together you can't achieve a certain common set of tasks) but I'm not sure using the current score to rate SVG compliance supports your claim of the ACID tests not being comprehensive. Certainly they don't try to do everything but SVG is included in #3. If you can provide a better test then maybe it's not too late to get it in?

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Shelley - 7:01 am March 11, 2008

My point Dave is that the ACID tests are not the be all end all when it comes to how well a browser implements a technology. Certainly it's a step in the right direction, but it's not enough that the browser makers focus all their efforts on passing just this test. They also have to make sure that the tech works in the real world.

That's why this post was named what it was.

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Bud Gibson - 7:27 am March 13, 2008

I think it works better without the clouds. I was just testing it with FF3 b4. I'll be interested to see the switch to Drupal or at least test of Drupal.

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dave - 4:07 am March 14, 2008

Thought you might be interested in this excerpt from the blog post I mentioned.

Acid3 has many SVG tests. We’ve been hard at work making these tests pass. In particular SVG font support and other aspects of the SVG DOM have been tested. Many of the remaining 10 points are SVG failures. We’ll be working on SVG animation in order to pass the last few SVG tests.

Surfin' Safari: The Acid 3 Test

Obviously the proof will be when two different implementations both pass Acid3 and then display common SVG usages in a predictably similar manner, but that at least appears to be the aim.

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